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Wednesday, January 12, 2005

Dave Burke calls the G'day World show "blue"

Dave says:

I'll get the high-noise-to-signal and freshly unsubscribed shows out of the way first:  G'Day World. These two hip Australians were fun but gratuitously vulgar.  I'm not Mr. Clean, certainly, but I just wasn't into it and checked-out early. The fact that the FCC doesn't dictate podcasting content is a precious quality, but you don't go blue on a podcast just because you can.

I've never been so proud. I note he didn't review Dawn & Drew! They make us look tame. Mick's jazzed that we were called "hip". We've never been called "hip" before. Dave, lemme share something with you - we aren't being "gratuitously vulgar"...

  1. Crudely indecent.
    1. Deficient in taste, delicacy, or refinement.
    2. Marked by a lack of good breeding; boorish. See Synonyms at common.
    3. Offensively excessive in self-display or expenditure; ostentatious: the huge vulgar houses and cars of the newly rich.
  2. Spoken by or expressed in language spoken by the common people; vernacular: the technical and vulgar names for an animal species.
  3. Of or associated with the great masses of people; common.

(from Dictionary.com)

..."just because we can". That's how we talk, mate. I put my "lack of good breeding" down to growing up in Bundaberg. And I wouldn't call the ability to speak freely "a precious quality". I think the FCC's censorship of American broadcast media is a huge and utter disgrace and an even bigger joke. If and when they have the power to censor podcasting will be when I hang up my $20 mic and return to ... whatever the hell it was I was doing before.

Go and check out Dave's photos though. He does some beautiful work.

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dude, do you think Dave has been really(!) listening to the DSC?
- 'I haven't missed a show for the last 3 weeks when I discovered the Daily Source. The guy is a top-shelf broadcaster and a honest-to-goodness nerd. Daily Source is a Daily Staple.' -

I guess he didn't 'touch on' Adam's strong and now contested affection for the 'gratuitously vulgar' Madge's Yeast Radio Show. Or could we have hit his soft and latent spot?

Cheers big ears

[*grrrr* why do comments always go murphy if you don't use your normal language which means much slower typing and much more dict. researh?? for the sake of my nerves this is typed in my editor and not in this commentfield *grumble*]

Since this guy has access to some unheared podcasts of yours I demand them too - as I did not come along some of those so called 'vulgar' podcast.

If I find something under my level and not my kind of humor, I do unsubscribe too - but because I don't find this entertaining. Not because I am upset that something like this exists.

I feel pity for people under the regulation of the FCC. Once because they are oppressed and have other people think for them plus they are used to not use their own brain and common sense which will make them - as it seems - unable to live somewhere else where there is no mommy around keeping everything dangerous from them.

It seems as if they can't cope with content which is not regulated. They have no immunsystem against but but need a fully steril surrounding. Time to think about if this is healthy or not.

Plus people under FCC regulations seem to have a problem to understand the concept of a world wide community and the implications of that.

When I did trainings for internet starters, the question of moral and ethics always came up. And my question back was the same each time: "Which kind of ethics and moral values would you like to apply? European? Chinese? Islamic? In that case, I am afraid I have to go and cover myself and don't come back - because I am a woman ..." (playing of course with the stereotype which exists in the public mind.)

We are talking about new milenium, global community, one world, one place etc - but there is still a long way ahead of us to just start with basics. :(

Btw: When I say I pity them I mean as long as they don't try to enforce their understanding of 'good' on my side. If they start that, I fight back.

Oh, man. I didn't mean to trigger some ethical hailstorm here. Now I'm going to have to start listening to you guys and become a fan. I apologize for how my comments appeared to have criticized your show. I'm sincerely sorry for that, but you don't just want to hear from people who suck up to you and telling you how great your show is all the time, do you? Or not. I'm only talking nerd information value here, not necessarily entertainment value, and certainly not ethics. Of course, ethics is the most interesting topic to argue...

I forget which G'day show I checked into, but early on there was a lengthy bit about pissing and the varied characteristics of piss. Now I'm all for pissing, certainly, but I just couldn't hang with it. (I wanted to reference the exact show, but I always have trouble finding links to the G'day World podcast. Don't know whether others are having trouble finding the show or not.) I listen to technical podcasts almost exclusively: IT Conversations stuff, DotNetRocks and, yeah, Daily Source. Daily Source primarily because it seems to spotlight whats new and happening in the world of podcasting. All of my blog podcast reviews are consistently on technical-oriented podcasts, which is why I wanted to check out G'day World and which is why I don't listen to pure entertainment podcasts like, say, Dawn and Drew. I do break my non-technical podcast rules by listening to MyPodsForecast, but that's the only exception. So from that perspective, when I fired-up G'day on my iPod I was not anticipating a lengthy bit on pissing. I'm seeing that this is a reflection of your show's distinctiveness and charm, which maybe at some future point I will be able to appreciate. But that also explains the "high noise-to-signal ratio" comment based on the delivery of technical info. I wasn't intending to make any judgment on its entertainment value, only on the amount of technical info I was hoping to hear.

Nicole, What's with the comments, "If I find something under my level and not my kind of humor, I do unsubscribe too - but because I don't find this entertaining. Not because I am upset that something like this exists.

"Plus people under FCC regulations seem to have a problem to understand the concept of a world wide community and the implications of that."

Fascinating, really. I say it's a precious quality of podcasting to be free of the FCC, and somehow I'm the defender of the FCC. And where in the world did you get that I was upset that this show exists. I EMBRACE the fact that this show exists! Talk about the moral high ground. Go moralize on someone else.

There must be some mis-understanding over my use of the phrase "precious quality" in describing podcasting being free of FCC regulation. I don't know how else to say it, how to express how important it is that the FCC has nothing to do with podcasting, nor will it ever. That's an INCREDIBLY precious thing. That freedom is not something everyone in the world can enjoy. But I don't think you were insinuating that.

And Marc, yeah, I'd say its now "contested affection" for Madge Weinstein. My "soft and latent spot." Good one! That whole 10-day episode was so wild, how he/she received all of this adulation and press from Curry and Winer (and was even referenced by Steve Gillmore on the January 7th Gillmore Gang show) and now Madge is a pariah because it was all just an act. How Curry and Winer concluded 1/9 Trade Secrets show is pretty much how I feel about Madge the entertainer. I have no problem with her content because that's who she was...or so everyone thought!

I went long here because I think I was misunderstood and I feel strongly about your freedom (and the freedom of all podcasters) to talk about anything you want to talk about on your show and in any way you want to say it. I'll continue to watch for interesting guests and tune back in at some point.

I've been a subscriber to your blog a long time before G'day World happened, Cameron (and saw this post because I read your blog, not from its reference to my blog.) Like I said, now I'm going to have to give you guys another listen. I deserved getting slammed for criticizing your show. Thanks for the kind words about my Walkin' the Dog pics. That was pretty darn decent of you.

Boy, do I ever have to take a piss!

Dave, if this is the only G'Dayworld you ever listened to, you missed a real entertaining podcast. Go catch on for some of the other shows. :o)

Well, I'm a big Doc Searls fan, so I downloaded show #10 last night. Hopefully I'll be able to get past the...oh never mind.

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